Billy describes what he witnessed during the Bosnian conflict of the early 1990s and he and Brian dig further into the age-old question of what causes human beings to commit such acts of horror against each other.

"The Chunter Basha" - a military term for a hut where soldiers gather in the jungle to socialize and discuss strategy - is a new podcast where former SAS Sergeant Major, celebrity bodyguard, philanthropist and author Mark "Billy" Billingham MBE shares captivating stories from his career and discusses a variety of life topics with his (civilian) buddy Brian.

Always a little further.